Friday, May 22, 2009

Meiland Discussion Questions from Group 3 (Pgs 12-17)

Choose one question to respond to, or you can respond to what someone else has posted:

1. Meiland asked "Is it true that good reasons make truth more likely?"(p1-12 line 32). Do you agree with this? If you answer "yes", give us examples.

2. In Meiland "Socrates is saying that if people have a merely true belief without knowing the justification of that belief, then they are not likely to have that belief for very long" (p1-15 line 8). Is this always true? Do you have any beliefs that you keep even without justification?

3. On page 1-16, there are six types of evidence which are used in justifying beliefs and making arguments in college. Do you always think of these when you do college work? Which ones do you use more than others? Which ones not at all?

Group 3 Leaders:
Satoshi A.
Hana S.
Mika O.

13 comments:

  1. I choose No2.

    I think this is true.
    When I discuss with others in class, I need to have justifications for my belief. If I do not have justifications for my belief, I can not persist in my belief and change my opinion.

    So I think we need to know the justification of the belief.

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  2. I also chose 2nd question.
    I agree with Socrates and Natsumi. It is because if I have justification belief, I will not change my mind or doubt my belief easily. On the other hand, of course, if I don’t have justification belief, it means I have nothing to belief from heart! So I think we need a justification of the belief.

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  3. from Natsumi's & Haruna's comment,
    I think to have justification is of course important to have own bilief for long time. However, I also think there are some cases that a person have a belief for long time without justifications. These are called "Gankake" in Japanese. These have not some justifications and sure precedents. That is from something like luck and a kind of pray. So I think we can't say long term biliefs must have justifications.

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  4. I agree with Yuka. It is good to have justification because then we can explain and can persuade other people. But I have long term bilief which came from a poetist. I do not think there are any justification in the belief, but I still believe it. So I also think we need to have beliefs without justification such as "Gankake"

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  5. I agree with Socrates because to have justification is only way to give us relief that our belief is true. Exactly, "Gankake" is a way of having a belief for a long time without justification because "Gankake" seems a way to support our own experience. Whenever we believed it, we can not believe ourselves, and we want to let oneself feel relieved. Seemingly it seems to give relief, but it does not give us ture relief by itself. After all, we have to have justification to have a belief for very long.

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  6. I agree with Yuka and Fumika. I also think there are some beliefs that people have for long time without justifications. Some of them are personal matters, becouse they need not to given good reason, so they also need not to be justified. For example, religions are actually effective in relieving, and above all, they are true for believers. So, I think Socrates's idea is not always true.

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  7. I choose No.3
    I use “3. evidence from reading and research,” and “6. reasoned sequence of ideas,” but I rarely use “5. Hypothetical examples, cases, scenarios.”
    The reason I use 3 is that as I read again and again, I understand the material deeper. When I write essay, I use 6.
    For 5, I do not like being influenced by hypothesis.

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  8. I agree with Masanori.

    Hypothetical examples are useful for thinking efficiently, but sometimes dangerous because our thought likely to be limited by this.

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  9. I agree with Yuka, Fumika and Shunsuke and I was convinced.I definitely think that there are beliefs which people can believe for a long time even though they do not have any justification.

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  10. I agree with Takayuki because I think "Gankake" is not belief but just hope. Although we seem to believe it, we always doubt it because we don't have justification. We must have justification to have a belief for very long.

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  11. I have a question!!
    many people are talking about "Gankake"
    but I'm confused... What's "Gankake"?
    Do you all pray for Buddha?

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  12. Thank you for your comments.
    Our questions are deepen thanks to you. We could not think of such ideas. Even if there are no answers to our question, thinking by oneself is important, I realize again.




    >Hanuna. F
    I thik "Gankake" is to wish on god, so it is not always Buddha.

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